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Audio interview · January 2013 · Los Angeles

Julian Jarrold

Director Julian Jarrold (The Girl, Kinky Boots) chats with Matt Schichter in Los Angeles.

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Episode #454 · Julian JarroldJanuary 2013 · 00:03:21

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0:04Hey! How are you? It's good, thank you. Amazing, I loved your film. I watched it right after I watched Hitchcock, like the other one. Okay. You went a little darker. You took it a little different way on Hitch's character. I think, well, if that period in his life, things got a little dark and tippy, so yeah. Did it change your view, like, after watching your film? I don't know if I'm going to watch a Hitchcock film in the same way, knowing that he's this little creepy dude. That was one of the things I wanted to make the film really, because when you look at Marty and the Birds, you see a whole different thing going on, because the relationship between the women in the house and Hitch's relationship tippy is very much reflected in the film. So, it's one of the interesting things about it. When did it first come to you? Like, did you read Tippy's book? Well, it was a biography by Thomas Foto, called The Dark Side of Genius, which talks about this relationship.

0:53But really, Tippy's only been able to talk about it in recent years. Oh, okay. Quite a painful experience. Oh, I can imagine. And, you know, after it, she didn't work for a long time. So, I was sort of fascinating. I mean, we never wanted to sort of denigrate Hitchcock, just to see, you know, one aspect of it, really. Well, I don't think it denigrates him. I think it just, it shows, I mean, his films are creepy and weird for a reason. It's in his character, I suppose. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, to be a genius like that, you have to have these dark elements, really, to sort of connect with these things. And his obsession with Tippy was most peculiar. And I was also quite romantic. I mean, I think in the end, he sort of fell in love with him. Oh, that's sweet. What about the two characters? Toby and Sienna? Where did you find them? How, how, how, how, they were the right, especially, let's go with Toby for, for that role.

1:40Well, Toby's just a brilliant, one of our brilliant, you know, nice, British character actors. And I've seen him in quite a few things. And he's, he's like a comedian. He can just transform himself, maybe. And he was very busy doing so, like, the Huntsman, so we weren't sure we could get him, but we shifted to shoot, so we could. Wow. And he just immersed himself in all the, all the archive material and the interviews. And then we put him through, I don't know, through a for hours, aesthetics, make up every single day. And what he came on set, he was like having another direct tron set, which was really creepy for me. And all the crew were, you know, really quiet and we were really respectful of him. And it created quite a different atmosphere. And then in the bar in the evening, he was Toby again. He's not one of those actors who's going to pull it off through the entire, the entire eight-week shoot or whatever.

2:28And I heard that the scene, like the bird scene, you're actually throwing birds at Sienna like they did in the original film. We threw everything at Sienna. That's crazy. And she was okay with this. She was okay. The birds had to have their tea breaks, because it was only a lot of use of a couple of birds. Right. So we alternated birds. We kept Sienna on set. We had pigeons, crows, seagulls. A little bit of everything. I just kept rolling. And it was very difficult to see what it was to do, because obviously at first the birds were similar to go anywhere near. We had nets around the set. Sienna was fantastic actually. It was a very pleasant experience. I thought it was a bit like a catch-go. Yeah, I thought I was going to throw in birds that are faced. Before I let you go, what are you working on now? What's the next project?

3:14It's called Great Train Robbery. And it's a BBC TV fan. Amazing. Well, hopefully we'll see it over here. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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