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Audio interview · December 2003 · Toronto

Something Corporate

Musician William Tell from the band Something Corporate (If You C Jordan, Space) chat with Matt Schichter in Toronto.

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Episode #13 · Something CorporateDecember 2003 · 00:31:50

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0:01Tonight's backstage pass exclusive features on the California Rock Bands something corporate About this kid who just don't that they say he's hurting me and as you see I'm all swelled up with fear cuz I can't get him off my back

0:53My speech and said see if you make it

1:42Inside a masterpiece There's one so many worlds until you're everything up

3:00F you I guess to this kid Jordan I mean if you listen to the song it's very biographical

4:25You know very much a story that's being told about Andrew getting kind of kind of it's kind of his way of getting back This kid that was the kind of jock who could have easily beaten him up So who's like kind of like the revenge of the of the not strong kid In a way Brian and clutch and Andrew all went to Dana Hills High School and William and I went to neighboring high schools and so we have mutual friends That's how we kind of knew each other but actually part of the part of like you know some of the early success of our band came from the fact that We weren't all friends because when we started playing live and doing all that like we'd all get our friends to come to the shows And you know we all had we're I wouldn't call any of us popular

5:11You know we bring you know like we had you know like really good friends who are really nice to us and like we come to all our shows So each of us had like 10 or 15 friends who would come to every show so we could bring like a hundred people every time We played you know so it's like you know starting out that really helped because it made us They just look a lot bigger than we even close to work So that was one of them, you know We owe a lot to our friends for those early days and they remind us of it quite frequently It was my day The band rules quickly to start and when they were featured on the Vans work tour two summers ago Also coming out with leaving through the window their debut album featuring the singles What you heard before if you see Jordan I woke up at a car and this one punk rock princess In out of that and we probably gained more than any other band out of work tour because

9:43We walked in as complete underdogs and as the band that didn't really fit You know other than the Morgan heritage, but nobody's gonna sit and make fun of a bunch of reggae black guys You know and so I think that a lot of times we went on stage and people just kind of sat and looked at us And we're like didn't get angered or think that we were poppy They just didn't get it at first and I think that that probably helped us You know I think there was more confusion than anger, you know And so I think that really helped us because you know at the end of every set on that on work tour We saw us converting a crowd You know and and I think that we really and we also learned a lot I mean that was probably the best learning experience of our lives It was one of the first I mean that was the first real big tour we've ever done and You know we learned a lot from you know everything from what it is to be a band

10:33That's on a big tour, you know to you know how it is you you know you sit and Every single day, you know, we were like okay, you know, what did we do right? What do we do wrong, you know, like and I think from the beginning and talking to Kevin Lyman the guy who runs warp tour He was saying, you know, it's so funny you guys were a completely different band on the last day That's where you won the first day before because we you know we seriously sat and were like, you know You have to keep stepping up your performance because if you don't if you don't perform better than everybody especially when you're in something corporate and you know You're not a punk band and everyone else kind of is or close to it. It's you know, it's a very challenging And so you have to go out there and do your absolute best just to compete and so I think that we we gained a lot from that

11:18And I think you know we really rose vacation I was really proud of every member of my band of our band including myself of that with that tour So after the work to the band at a whole new fan base ranging from country fans to punk fans to golf music fans Pretty much anyone all shapes and sizes started hearing about something corporate, you know It's weird because we've done tours like, you know, we kind of run the gamut of touring, you know It's like other than like it's like we need a tour of Toby Keith next or something just to round it out You know, so but uh, you know We went you know in the beginning we were torn with a lot of pop punk bands just because we were on drive through and There's bands we knew, you know, it was like, you know fans like you know Fans and you found glory we went on tour where and doing the warp tour, you know So we had that kind of pop punk thing going even though we weren't really a pop punk band

12:05We're kind of a visitor in the genre in a way We you know, we I don't necessarily like denounce anybody who calls us a pop punk band because hey at least they're talking about us But I think especially listening to the new album We're not you know, it's like saying everyone okay, that's not what we are and not like, you know We're again not like we're denouncing the title because we think it's horrible. It's just not what we are as a band We're not a country band either, you know, it's nothing wrong with country music But you know, you know, we go into do you know tours like, you know You found glory and stuff like that and then you know this summer we went on tour with 311 Which is a complete kind of other side of the rock genre, you know So it's like you go from playing to kids that were 17 and 18 to play into people that were 27.8 You know, like is your average age and it's like wow, you know And I think that going on this headline so and then after that, you know, we did a month with a good job

12:54Which is again on the other side is even on the other side of the the pop punk thing because you know They you get the whole kind of TRL crowd with that, you know, which is like all the kids that you know Have kind of grown out of the Britney Spears thing But you know are starting to get into rock music or really end up like your child So you get you know the 14 15 16, you know, you're old and stuff like that. So it's it's a lot Younger of a crowd than even you know the pop punk regular crowd even though, you know, not that they don't have Older fans at all, you know, the band is awesome, but for our You know when we went on the headlining tour It's funny because we have this huge kind of college fan base and we've kind of played all these tours the kind of span from you know 13 years old to 30 So, you know coming to our shows it's you know to cultural fair of age

13:43Speaking of headlining tour the band recently wrapped up their first ever headlining tour I asked the band how different it must be Through expectations and whatnot from the crowd and from their own band about actually being the headliners now and not opening up for a bigger I it's a little bit more pressure, but it's at the same time You know there's nothing you can really do about it It was funny cuz Andrew and I had a didn't interview somebody and they asked us both this and they asked us I think separately and he's like yeah, I'm just blah blah blah blah and I'm like well if they come to come And that's kind of how I see it. It's like well There's nothing I can do in Toronto to get people to come other than what I've already done You know, which is coming here and do press and stuff like that. So You know, yeah, it's a little bit more pressure I think it's more different just with how you play and you know, it's it's a lot more rewarding of a

14:31of a show to play not that opening for a band isn't rewarding because You know, it's just different because you're playing to your crowd who knew your songs and it's not like you're trying to win anybody over You know, it's like people are there for the most part to see you so you also have to live up to that expectation So I think we do pretty well live like as a band like You know representing ourselves Welcome to New York City from our sleep Combination of things it's like, you know, how can you you can't really pinpoint one certain thing?

18:48I mean part of the to radio play a part of it's I think maybe being a little bit different from the mainstream I don't think necessarily we think because we have I mean we're a little different because we have a piano You know in the band, but I don't think any of us think we're reinventing in the wheel by doing that You know, you go back to, you know, everything from Leonard Skinner to the band to, you know, the Beatles You know, they all had pianos in their songs and you know up until you know in blink 182 they have pianos in their songs You know, so it's like we're not really doing anything that we think we're like, oh, we are so clever It never happened so But I think you know having you know that kind of thing like out on stage with us every night Does you know kind of set us a little bit to the side of the norm? So, you know, I think that helps and I think that you know, we're pretty honest rock band

19:34I think we write songs about you know real things and you know, that's what I would like to think that it is, you know Maybe it's that word We all have good hair or something. Yeah I asked the band how they felt about the downloading of their music if it's helped them or harmed them more It's done both and so it's kind of you know, it's it's six and one hand half dozen in the other because you know really It's like how do you deal with? In one sense Hasn't heard us absolutely, you know, who knows how many albums we were sold but who knows how many albums We sold on this last one because people downloaded our first one, you know, and you know, and that's it You know a totally valid point You know, I think a lot of people found out about our band because they downloaded and if downloading wasn't around We might not be is you know at the status that we're at so you can't really it's hard to gauge, you know

20:22It's you know, I guess you you wish that there was a way that that people would all do it legally but you know at the same time, you know if If you have, you know, if you're growing gas in your backyard, are you gonna go to the gas station? So Yeah, I guess it's you know, you know, I can't really fault people for it But at the same time it'll necessarily I think that the best thing is that if you should download it like what I I've done You know in the past I buy most records now because I don't have time to download You know, I don't have internet access that much so but not I've done in the past like when I was in college I download a song or two and if I liked the band I went out and bought the CD if I didn't well I wasn't gonna be a fan of the band anyway, so you know, yeah, maybe that's bad because I downloaded the song But you know I didn't really yeah, you know, I think it's more you should give it a chance

21:09And if you like it then you should do it I think I think you should use the internet as research You know More than as your your your source for music. It's like well if you're gonna download an album, you know Go to go to the show and you know and buy a t-shirt or something like that But do something to support the band because you it's very one-sided then if you don't you know I think that that's that's the point of it all is that that you know bands, you know Especially bands in our position and even below our position, you know, like, you know There's a lot of great bands out there who you know I know a lot of people have you know, there's stuff downloading stuff But it's like well if you keep doing that, you know They're gonna stop doing what they're doing because they can't afford to live and they're gonna have to go back and get real jobs at home so It's like you got to do something to support the band and support what they do Because they're not gonna do it anymore if they can't support themselves, so

21:59I mean, yeah, I mean it's kind of funny to hear like Metallica and stuff, you know crying complain But you know like they have a point and what you know So do we when we say you know like we're at the state of the status we're in because of the internet maybe part of our part is You can't really gauge it, you know, there's no game The things that I cannot say Scream a sight that's me Nothing's gonna blow me away So one man can do so

23:09Yes, they do But he always got caught Man that kid made fucking up looking at him

24:54Something corporate's Kavanaugh Park as you'd see something corporate is not only a hard-to-rock band

25:58They can write those nice melodic songs such as Kavanaugh Park We just heard before that I woke up in a car punk rock princess and if you see Jordan Some news something corporate's gonna be coming up in a bit a few more clips from the interview with something corporate right now I think they both Andrew and I knew that people's the second album that comes out from a band is usually the road album And we really didn't want it to be that you know We were kind of like you know That's not right about being on the road and let's not write this you know You know let's be a little bit better than everyone else and try and you know right now little about you know And also better than the last album the last time was a little bit more young You know sounding you know sounds like if you see Jordan and you know a lot of songs about girls and a lot of songs about You know relationships and not that those you know those are easy things to write about

26:46But I think we tried to and we still wrote about those But I think we kind of took up another take on them You know you did with you know sounds like me in the moon is a song about a woman killing her husband And it's you know about the relationship of you know, you know man a woman But you know being fed up with it and coming to that you know And it's kind of from the side of of a woman and and and being fed up with a life that couldn't deal with and you know eventually killing her husband and so you know it's a little bit more You know and then there's something like only ashes which is song about you know being cremated Which is a lot, you know a lot deeper. I mean I think that both Andrew and myself wanted it to be a lot deeper lyrically then then not only then our last album but just to To kind of because we've always tried to write the deepest lyrics we can and try tried to tell stories and not be that

27:34Normal song from a band. I think that as writers I think Andrew and I gotten a lot better and you know My favorite songs by hammer definitely on the sound this album is more about You know leaving through the window was an album where I think we wrote it and we we recorded it as this as kind of like Not not sure what our band sounds like and I think you know not like you know We didn't know we didn't really know what where our niche was You know and we're still kind of finding it because we're young band And I think that this album is you know, everybody knows what our band know or like in the band I mean everyone in the band knew what we sounded like and it was more of us focused on making making it sound like us You know, it's kind of a hard thing I guess to to explain but you know, it's kind of like, you know Like with a you know any sort of like like an author or something

28:21You know when they first start writing they're getting their style and then when they get into it They know what their style is they know how they want to say it. It's just what are they gonna say? You know and so I think that's kind of like a good way to explain it This this album is a lot more about a band that knows what they sound like and this is what we sound like and so It's also a lot more somber of a record I think that being in Seattle when we recorded it kind of helped out along, you know It's a lot like the weather today. There are a lot, you know, so You know, it's a very rainy album in a lot of ways and but not to say that it's it's Melancholy in all senses, but I think it's definitely a little bit more moody

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