Wavves

0:00Is that a big one to do it yours or theirs? Yeah. Come to Canada and make yours light. We'll disappoint us. Thanks. I was kind of happy. Actually, I got really fucking excited. We had not drank course life in a long time. Should we have drank like Molson or whatever? That's what they normally give you. Well, that's like the Canadian piss one. It's like the Canadian Samad, kind of generic if you want. Yeah, yeah. I like Molson. I would have taken Molson. Yeah. That's what we'll start the interview. Beer chook? No. Well, we kind of have beer choices. I do like Peroni is my favorite, I guess. I like Sapporo. Sapporo, so lighter beer. Oh, that's what you like the course like? It's just easier to toss it back. Does getting, I don't know if I want to do this in the interview.

0:45Does getting drunker help the show? Does it need to live performance? Yeah, it does. Of course. Yeah. There's a good medium. Yeah, there's a point where, not I couldn't stand up so I just sit on a stage. Then everybody just started stepping on the face. That was, I guess, two drunk? Maybe. That one was two drunk. But the rest of them were two drunk. You want to teeter on the edge of two drunk almost. Yes. This is our turn. You want to look like you have a good time and... You want to actually have a good time. So alcohol helps that because... I don't know. You transfer energy to the ground. It goes back and forth. I like that. I don't have a problem. I do. You do? Yes, I do. I did puke a lot today.

1:32Yeah, you were fucking wasted when you woke up this morning. Yeah, you weren't sober until you woke up here. Yeah, no. That's why I felt so bad. How are you feeling now? You're doing better? A little better. I don't have any food on me. Or in me right now. No. No food on you? Okay, well, let's start with the record because it just came out like a week ago. And start on the outside and go inside. Who's the dude in the cover? Why was he even knife on his forehead? What was going on there? Uh... It's from this book that we were... Looking at a lot during the recording process. It was the producer John Hill. It's this book. I can't remember what it's called, but it's just basically like a history of tattoos during the turn of the century.

2:17And it's in a malgum of photos from one certain artist or one certain tattoo artist. But that guy in particular, I think the story behind him was he got labeled a thief. Or something like that. And so they tattooed his forehead. But it's also like people who are a part of like under... You know, tattoos were so much more forend at this point. They meant a lot more. So you're part of a club when you had those things that you're a part of like a gang or something. Like it meant so much more. But there are tons of pictures in there that were like really, really cool. There was one of the... Like, slow vocking or something. No one of the checks on the forehead. There's one guy I can't remember. He's from somewhere.

3:05And he... When he was a kid, he had like a bunch of like writing on his forehead tattoos. When he was a kid, he got a really high fever and his parents thought he was going to die. And so they took him to a witch doctor. And she tattooed some spell on his face. And so he just had it the rest of his life. But it looked so fucking cool. So then his stories influenced any lyrics on their record. Like going through that book must have been nuts while you're... Yeah, I mean of course. Like even if you don't think about it too much, just you know, it kind of subconsciously enters your brain. And I was looking at it every single day for, you know, months. How is growing them? I mean, I know even in the past few years now, but how is growing the band changed the writing process and getting together as opposed to just being you and the better?

3:53On the last record, Steven wrote one song. And then on this one, he co-wrote with me like four or five. So how does it work with you two already together? If you're sitting across from each other with guitars, how does that work? One of us will bring a demo. It's kind of different from everything. Yeah, I guess that's true. Mostly give me an example of a tune that you guys wrote together on this one. I'm afraid I had to work together. Okay, the title shot. Cool. I sent a demo to you. And then I came in and you did some vocals on it. And then we just kind of worked it out together. And it started for you where on a guitar drum beat, like how does it begin? I usually do it for that song. I guess I think I had just been playing the bass line for a long time.

4:38Yeah, you've been playing the bass line during like sound checks and stuff like that. One of those riffs that just can't get over your head kind of thing. Yeah. And then I just used shitty electronic drums and did a quick demo of it. Sure. And then he wrote a lot of the stuff on Dog, too. Which was a demo that I had from a couple years ago. And I just never did anything with it until there was that bass line. Because I couldn't figure out where to go with the song. Alright. Cool. Afraid of heights, Jenny Lewis. I listened to that song three times. I don't know where her voice is. Really? People just want to grab on. It's like, oh, that's Jenny Lewis. Yeah, why do you bring her in? Everybody talks about it. If we just needed a little bit of a female vocal, it wasn't like it's supposed to be like people,

5:23you know, it's an easy thing to talk about I think. Yeah, I think she's on the I think I must be drunk parts. Yeah. But really buried. Okay. She does something a little bit of the falsetto. Oh, yeah. And she brought some cookies? Yeah, she brought cookies. They're like weird salted cookies. Salted? Yeah. Yeah. That's like, it was them. No, no, no. No, they weren't weak. They're like sweet and sour. Oh, they're just regular cookies. They look such a good story. Oh. It's still a good story. I did an interview a while ago and I think I, she brought us weed in Philadelphia one time. And then I went on to say about the cookies and I think it just kind of turned into cookies.

6:10On the topic of that, you guys, I hear you have a line of grinders. Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing merch idea. Where did that, like that's more fancy to do stuff like that. Random things to sell on the table that are just. Have you seen our prayer candles? No, I have not. Oh, no, I saw the photo of them somewhere. Someone tweeted her Instagram or something. So there's prayer candles. And then there's grinders. Yeah. What other kind of crazy merch you guys sell? We had papers and lighters, but those might be sold out. I think. Yeah. What comes up with these ideas? Do you have a team working on that? Is that you guys doing it? It's pretty easy to come up with those things. Why aren't more bands doing it then? Why is there only teachers? People are like, just not very creative, I guess. Or maybe we're just stupid. Yeah, we're, it's pretty illegal for us to be selling grinders.

6:55Especially bringing those across the border. That's paraphernalia. Well, I will say in the States, can I not print that? Should I keep that out? You can keep it out. Fuck. So you wrote for No Doubt. You did. You didn't. What happened there? I actually, how I meant John was we were supposed to write a song for No Doubt together. They didn't pick it up though. But we wrote a couple of things for other people. Was it like running for other people? Do you try and put yourself in, I guess, Gwen's shoes for what she might say? Or is it something you write and then say, although Doubt could use this one out of the bash that I have? I try and think about what my favorite part of No Doubt was because I'm an actual No Doubt fan. And tragicing them is by far my favorite No Doubt era.

7:40So I wanted to do something like Spider Web or something like that. Let's go to cool base. So, Sunday morning? Yeah, Sunday morning was great too. Yeah, one of those, I mean, but I wanted it to be like a little bit more of tempo. And I think they were going like, they did kind of like a weird dubstep-y record or something. I had like Diblow produce it. I don't think it did very well. But the assas write another song later. And the assas again, to come back and we were leaving for tour so I didn't get to go and do the writing session. Cool. Still love makeup. The opening track, like on your, I'm jumping all over the place because we don't have too much time. But say all the songs, we have this crazy chimes and glasses intro that fits me. Like it fits because you say it fits in the song. But it's like, you know where near the way the rest of the tune sounds.

8:26So where did that come from? Why start the record that way? And where did that come from? Just that. Just started because we did that. Just that. It doesn't fit, but it does because we put it there. Yeah. And what is it? Is it chimes? Is it glass? Like how are you making those sounds? It's a ton of different things. I was lubes. I don't remember all of them. Like Glock and Spiel or something like that. Yeah, Glock and Spiel is the last. I think there's harps of quarter. Oh, which cool stuff. Oh, and we originally was that, what was that thing called? The little box? Oh, the OP-1. What's that one? Oh, the little... The melod. The melod. The collideloon. That's a fun word. Yeah. That was just a bunch of different things. We used a lot, a lot of stuff.

9:13Like if we actually wrote down all of the equipment that we used on this record, it would fill a book. It's not the time of the equipment guitar. You were obsessed with guitar tones from this record of getting that just the right sound. Yeah, definitely. I mean, John already had a bunch of really cool stuff, really cool amps and pedals and stuff like that. But we started dipping into rich costies, stuff because he was recording with us. And Chris Cody came down and he was huddled these things. And they're all pedal heads. And I was kind of, I felt like I was behind a little bit so I was trying to catch up the whole time sitting there and just trying different sounds out. And he's like really good with that stuff too. So I just felt like a God-meno.

9:58So we tried all day. She was trying to prove myself! Apple sauce head bowl. I just want to write about it. Explain the game. Comes out of boredom and alcohol. And we usually ask for apples because we smoke weed out of apples so we can ditch it easily. So we just- Two ate one of them the other day and we thought we were going to pull it over. Day and set it grew up all over the place. It was three days old too. We tried to replace them every day but we just had been smoking on this one apple for three days. And then day and tour manager was like we're definitely getting pulled over. You better eat that now. It's like super, super sick. Basically.

10:43You ate this rotten apple full of just carbon and earth. Still gross. Maybe that's why you're feeling on over it. Maybe it's all combining inside of you. Yeah. Five quick questions. One more answers. You guys can both answer. Road or studio? Studio. Studio. Let it know what you're gonna call it. When you hear a song it usually hits you first lyrics, melody or rhythm. Melody and melody. Song you've written your most proud of. I've got it. In one word, wings.

11:35Or? Yeah. It's a little bit twisted with a Z. Mooz. Yeah. It's mooz. Mooz understood. I think that's actually a pink record. I think it is a pink record. The letterman appearance that we played they actually bumped us from. For pink. And then they, and then scheduled in conflicts with pink happen and so they bumped her and put us back on it. So, Mooz understood. It's very, you said waves. You never explained the story that what is apple toss head ball? It's literally, it's very self-explentatory. You take an apple and then you put the bowl on your friend's head and you just throw the apple in the bowl and whoever gets the most gets nothing. There was no point in the system. There was, there was just.

12:22Who's the best? I think Alec is. Alec's was pretty good. Yeah. Alec's got the most. He's the other guitarist. Okay. Broke chocolate. Gotcha. Cool. What's his last name? It's like an toss head. Alex. Amazing. Thanks guys. Yeah. Thank you. That was actually easy. Yeah.